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My concern about the ones I see here is that they can produce huge swings in your bankroll - I hate losing! When really negative I leave - unless there are few hands left before the shuffle. Also, knowing basic strategy is a prerequisite that you have down pat it sounds like. Once you increase your bet spread though, you'll be running new risk in two areas. It's staying welcome. If the remaining cards are really negative I leave - even if I just won five hands in a row. When the count goes to negative EV, you stop playing. They're easier, yet effective. In regards to getting barred - I've read that some casinos will bar a player simply because he does not lose, or does not lose enough. What you do is simply watch a table without playing until the count goes up, then you put your black chip down. KenSmith said:. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. Search forums. It's a tricky proposition. I know it's controversial, but I think it has an appropriate target market, and this sounds exactly like what is called for here. If I were you I wouldn't fall into the trap thinking, "It's worked for me so far, so I'll just keep doing it. I attribute this to my being more conservative about going from 1. Forums Forums General JavaScript is disabled. Log in Register. My idea of luck is winning 7 hands in a row, or the 17 straight sessions I once won. The other question I have is about getting barred. But, I must caution you in a couple of areas: A 1 to 1. At the lower limit tables I figure I've played approximately 6, hands. Feelgood said:. One pit boss knows my player card number by heart. Golden Touch does not advertise being anywhere as strong as some of the other more complex systems. If they are still more than you want to learn, then keep doing what you're doing, and hope the luck keeps going your way. Second, the casino now has something to worry about, especially at the black chip level. Canceler Well-Known Member Oct 10, So, are you using any particular counting system? A slight negative I ignore, but keep my bet to a minimum. I would expect that using no particular counting system with a 1. Secondly, when the dealer was counting out my chips this morning a dealer from another table yelled over: "Why don't you just give him another thousand and let him go. I have faithfully kept a log of all my play for the past three years. Speed Count Works I also agree that the Speed Count System works and is a positive move for the recreational blackjack player. I'm not sure when the law of large numbers kicks in, but 13, hands seems like at least a good start…What number of hands would qualify as a large number in terms of the law of large numbers? I would like to make sure I've got your bet spread right I know know it for KO off the top of my head, but even a full 1 to 2 spread is a negative expectation game, and barely positive in single deck. You've identified the biggest challenge in playing a winning system. Log in. Please don't derail this thread into a Golden Touch diatribe. Search Advanced search…. First, you accurately identify the fact that your losses will be bigger when they occur. The easy answer is this If you keep your bet spread where it is now, you'll never have to worry about being barred unless this particular casino's personnel are inept! You won't need a spread at all. Successful, Conservative Play. Does anyone else use a conservative betting strategy like this? First off, I should mention my counting. Feelgood Member Oct 10, Careful QFIT that sounds like diatribe. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Search titles only. Thread starter Buzzer Start date Oct 9, Buzzer Member Oct 9, I have been successfully playing BJ for about 10 years, more seriously for the past 3 years, and very seriously for the last 7 months. This really takes discipline and I have failed at this more than once! Sonny Well-Known Member Oct 10, Buzzer said:. You ask when you should start to worry. Oct 9, It sounds like you have the beginnings of a successful plan here, and you've definitely taken the first step in realizing that streaks have nothing to do with a winning game. I won't quibble with your results though, I hope mine can be as good. And Ken, I thought that since you sold that book through Bayview Strategies that you stood behind it as accurate gambling advice. Since you found Hi-Lo too hard, give KO a try. I don't like the idea of "card watching". I think it's a very unreliable form of card counting, expecially in 8 deck shoes. The wonder of this technique is every hand you play has positive EV, so it doesn't matter what your spread is. What number of hands would quailfy as a large number in terms of the law of large numbers? I bought it and it seems to be pretty much what it advertised. I have not been in an overall negative position since I started my log. When do I have to start worrying? Non-counter success This reminds me of the year I kept accurate records of my trips.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} I have just used a basic watch of the cards to determine if they are positive or negative. The problem is that your big bets must have enough profit in them to offset the negative expectation of all your waiting bets. When positive I bet 1. KenSmith Administrator Staff member. I'm not sure when the law of large numbers kicks in, but 13, hands seems like at least a good start. Appreciate your response to my post! At the higher limit tables I've played approximately 7, hands. I learned the Hi-opt system but found it was too much work. New posts. It's a popular technique in AC where the games are poor and there is little if any heat so you never need play a negative EV hand. Ken, you are the only Board Owner who is not "laying a dime" on this system and I commend you for that, and please don't let the "Book Sellers" intimidate you with their negative comments about system. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. That's because you're still not playing an overall positive game. Certainly it's better than nothing, but your success so far is more about luck than math. It's better than no system at all, and personally I have had success using it the last two times I played. Buzzer Member Oct 10, When will it stop being luck? Automatic Monkey Banned Oct 10, Buzzer if you like conservative play with a flat or nearly flat bet, backcounting might be for you. My other observance of luck is that it changes, my play log is fairly consistent in it's ups and downs. If not, and you're just keeping an eye out for cards, are you actually maintaining some sort of running count? I have basic stategy totally memorized for both 8 deck and 2 deck play. To date I have had no problems - all rooms and meals are comped, plus some other stuff. I have no problem leaving before a "streak" has ended. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. The other problem I see is that with 5X your basic bet you may be in a "super loaded" position and see no gains when you are assuming the maximum risk.